Miliband: We will scrap bedroom tax

Epsom Guardian: Ed Miliband is set to condmen the 'bedroom tax' Ed Miliband is set to condmen the 'bedroom tax'

A Labour government would scrap the coalition's "bedroom tax", Ed Miliband is to announce ahead of the party's annual conference.

In an effort to regain the initiative after a string of revelations about the bitter in-fighting of the Blair/Brown years, Mr Miliband will condemn the controversial measure as "a symbol of an out-of-touch, uncaring Tory Government".

Labour insists the £470 million expected to be saved by the welfare reform could instead be covered by closing "shady" tax loopholes. On the eve of his party's conference in Brighton, Mr Miliband will say the "most important issue facing families in Britain" is "the cost of living crisis".

He will say: "Under David Cameron life is getting harder and harder, with prices rising faster than wages in 38 of the 39 months that he has been in Downing Street, and working people are an average of almost £1,500 a year worse off under his Government.

"But we have a Tory-led Government which listens only to a privileged few. Tax cuts for millionaires and tax breaks for hedge funds." He will say the "bedroom tax" was the product of a Government that "stands up for the privileged few - but never for you".

Mr Miliband will say: "We'll scrap the bedroom tax by abolishing the shady schemes of tax loopholes for the privileged few which the Tories keep inventing. Tax cuts for hedge funds, the billion pound black hole created with a scheme for workers to sell their rights for shares, and by tackling scams which cheat the taxpayer in construction."

The announcement came as Labour feared their annual gathering could be overshadowed by the publication of Gordon Brown's spin doctor's memoirs. Former special adviser Damian McBride confessed to leaking stories to the press about former home secretaries John Reid and Charles Clarke at a time when he was determined to ensure Mr Brown succeeded Tony Blair as prime minister.

The Tories claimed Labour's sums did not add up and the party would need to increase borrowing to cover the cost of the "bedroom tax" policy. The Government was already cracking down on the use of intermediary firms to dodge tax, and scrapping the shares for rights scheme would yield nothing in 2015/16 and just £5 million in 2016/17, the Conservatives claimed. They argued that pension funds, rather than hedge funds, would be hit by reinstating the stamp duty reserve tax charge.

Treasury Minister Sajid Javid said: "Labour's first policy commitment, after three years of waiting, is more spending on housing benefit, funded by a tax on pensions and more borrowing. That sums up Labour's record in office and shows it's still the same old Labour. Despite promising 'discipline' on borrowing, Ed Miliband has shown he is too weak to deliver."

But Grainia Long, chief executive of the Chartered Institute of Housing, backed the Labour announcement, saying: "The bedroom tax is not fair - it has become clear since its introduction that this policy is causing hardship and suffering for thousands of people across Great Britain, as many in the housing industry warned it would."

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7:13pm Fri 20 Sep 13

Jonn says...

As it has clearly failed catastrophically in it's objective to solve the 'over crowding' issue in the London area and only put tens of thousands in arrears all over the country already, it should be scrapped tomorrow, not in 2015.
I can see the Government slowly backing down on this policy as the evidence is becoming over whelming that it's a disaster and purely nasty.
Those families that have had people commit suicide over this policy should sue the Government and those responsible for it's implementation should be jailed.
As it has clearly failed catastrophically in it's objective to solve the 'over crowding' issue in the London area and only put tens of thousands in arrears all over the country already, it should be scrapped tomorrow, not in 2015. I can see the Government slowly backing down on this policy as the evidence is becoming over whelming that it's a disaster and purely nasty. Those families that have had people commit suicide over this policy should sue the Government and those responsible for it's implementation should be jailed. Jonn

7:18pm Fri 20 Sep 13

justsayithowitis says...

I can't see what the problem is. If you rent privately and are on benefits spare rooms will not be allowed. Why should you be allowed spare rooms at taxpayers expense because you live in a council house
I can't see what the problem is. If you rent privately and are on benefits spare rooms will not be allowed. Why should you be allowed spare rooms at taxpayers expense because you live in a council house justsayithowitis

7:30pm Fri 20 Sep 13

Joe Wildman-Clark says...

justsayithowitis wrote:
I can't see what the problem is. If you rent privately and are on benefits spare rooms will not be allowed. Why should you be allowed spare rooms at taxpayers expense because you live in a council house
Private rentals are not effected, its only council owned houses.

There is somebody I know who is in a FOUR bed council house on his own! Not down this neck of the woods why should he be permitted to stay there when countless families are crying out for such a place.

I admit I live in a four bedroom house on my own the BIG difference is I paid for it I OWN 100% of it, never took out a mortgage as I had the cash through long hard work, why should somebody who has never lifted a finger for a days work have the same size house as somebody who has worked since the day they left school.

Its time people stopped expecting the state to look after them and they looed after themselves.

As for paying for it most big companies will just move their banking and investments arms offshore not rocket science.
[quote][p][bold]justsayithowitis[/bold] wrote: I can't see what the problem is. If you rent privately and are on benefits spare rooms will not be allowed. Why should you be allowed spare rooms at taxpayers expense because you live in a council house[/p][/quote]Private rentals are not effected, its only council owned houses. There is somebody I know who is in a FOUR bed council house on his own! Not down this neck of the woods why should he be permitted to stay there when countless families are crying out for such a place. I admit I live in a four bedroom house on my own the BIG difference is I paid for it I OWN 100% of it, never took out a mortgage as I had the cash through long hard work, why should somebody who has never lifted a finger for a days work have the same size house as somebody who has worked since the day they left school. Its time people stopped expecting the state to look after them and they looed after themselves. As for paying for it most big companies will just move their banking and investments arms offshore not rocket science. Joe Wildman-Clark

9:21pm Fri 20 Sep 13

JADEE1 says...

due to the bedroom tax there is now over 300,3 bedroom family houses sitting empty,on the wirral alone,,the rents are around £ 380.00 per month.people now claim £ 500.00 per month & more for private 1 & 2 bedroom houses & flats.so if your a tax payer your all being ripped off by the goverment,happy days for all the MPs who are landlords & most of them are ,especially in london,were rents are 4 times as much than whats charged in the north,!! were all being conned.!!
due to the bedroom tax there is now over 300,3 bedroom family houses sitting empty,on the wirral alone,,the rents are around £ 380.00 per month.people now claim £ 500.00 per month & more for private 1 & 2 bedroom houses & flats.so if your a tax payer your all being ripped off by the goverment,happy days for all the MPs who are landlords & most of them are ,especially in london,were rents are 4 times as much than whats charged in the north,!! were all being conned.!! JADEE1

9:21pm Fri 20 Sep 13

Rowdie says...

My parents both now dead....lived in a large 3 bed council house with myself and my sister. When my sister and I both left and got our own places my parents transferred from the large 3 bed house to a small council one bed terraced bungalow when they spent the rest of their lives.

A larger family was then able to move into our old homestead instead of being cramped in smaller accommodation.

Will someone tell me what is so wrong with that conception. It will need tinkering around the edges to accommodate everybody...there will always be exceptions where 'the cap doesn't always fit'...but surely the principle is the right way to go about it. And my family was always strong Labour through and through.
My parents both now dead....lived in a large 3 bed council house with myself and my sister. When my sister and I both left and got our own places my parents transferred from the large 3 bed house to a small council one bed terraced bungalow when they spent the rest of their lives. A larger family was then able to move into our old homestead instead of being cramped in smaller accommodation. Will someone tell me what is so wrong with that conception. It will need tinkering around the edges to accommodate everybody...there will always be exceptions where 'the cap doesn't always fit'...but surely the principle is the right way to go about it. And my family was always strong Labour through and through. Rowdie

9:22pm Fri 20 Sep 13

Rowdie says...

My parents both now dead....lived in a large 3 bed council house with myself and my sister. When my sister and I both left and got our own places my parents transferred from the large 3 bed house to a small council one bed terraced bungalow when they spent the rest of their lives.

A larger family was then able to move into our old homestead instead of being cramped in smaller accommodation.

Will someone tell me what is so wrong with that conception. It will need tinkering around the edges to accommodate everybody...there will always be exceptions where 'the cap doesn't always fit'...but surely the principle is the right way to go about it. And my family was always strong Labour through and through.
My parents both now dead....lived in a large 3 bed council house with myself and my sister. When my sister and I both left and got our own places my parents transferred from the large 3 bed house to a small council one bed terraced bungalow when they spent the rest of their lives. A larger family was then able to move into our old homestead instead of being cramped in smaller accommodation. Will someone tell me what is so wrong with that conception. It will need tinkering around the edges to accommodate everybody...there will always be exceptions where 'the cap doesn't always fit'...but surely the principle is the right way to go about it. And my family was always strong Labour through and through. Rowdie

9:22pm Fri 20 Sep 13

Rowdie says...

My parents both now dead....lived in a large 3 bed council house with myself and my sister. When my sister and I both left and got our own places my parents transferred from the large 3 bed house to a small council one bed terraced bungalow when they spent the rest of their lives.

A larger family was then able to move into our old homestead instead of being cramped in smaller accommodation.

Will someone tell me what is so wrong with that conception. It will need tinkering around the edges to accommodate everybody...there will always be exceptions where 'the cap doesn't always fit'...but surely the principle is the right way to go about it. And my family was always strong Labour through and through.
My parents both now dead....lived in a large 3 bed council house with myself and my sister. When my sister and I both left and got our own places my parents transferred from the large 3 bed house to a small council one bed terraced bungalow when they spent the rest of their lives. A larger family was then able to move into our old homestead instead of being cramped in smaller accommodation. Will someone tell me what is so wrong with that conception. It will need tinkering around the edges to accommodate everybody...there will always be exceptions where 'the cap doesn't always fit'...but surely the principle is the right way to go about it. And my family was always strong Labour through and through. Rowdie

10:10pm Fri 20 Sep 13

JADEE1 says...

the fact is the bedroom tax is illegal & the 22% council tax is illegal ,even the UNITED NATIONS HAVE STEPPED INN,it is against the civil & human rights of the people it effects ,its as simple as that,it must be scrapped today ,ed milliband is light years behind,will someone tell the idiot whats going on,?
the fact is the bedroom tax is illegal & the 22% council tax is illegal ,even the UNITED NATIONS HAVE STEPPED INN,it is against the civil & human rights of the people it effects ,its as simple as that,it must be scrapped today ,ed milliband is light years behind,will someone tell the idiot whats going on,? JADEE1

10:20pm Fri 20 Sep 13

beach1e says...

thankfully another nail in the coffin of the labour trash. subsidising people to live in houses that are too large is wrong morally, those people should be made to move...if you want to pick how and where u live..get a job and support yourself...hard working , tax paying people who dont sponge off the state have human rights too, but as always, decent people get ignored.
thankfully another nail in the coffin of the labour trash. subsidising people to live in houses that are too large is wrong morally, those people should be made to move...if you want to pick how and where u live..get a job and support yourself...hard working , tax paying people who dont sponge off the state have human rights too, but as always, decent people get ignored. beach1e

10:21pm Fri 20 Sep 13

JADEE1 says...

rowdie i agree in principle but the goverment can find a better way for people to down size ,not starve or blackmail them out of there home & into private property that will cost us the tax payer even more in rent support,,the lib MP i d smith said he did,nt expect so many people to move,,he expected them to pay out of there food money,the shortfall in the rent reduction,and that is a fact.we have one of the worst nastiest evil corupt goverment for many years ,this bedroom & 22% council tax is now being investigated by the united nations,under the peoples human rights,sooner the better,!!
rowdie i agree in principle but the goverment can find a better way for people to down size ,not starve or blackmail them out of there home & into private property that will cost us the tax payer even more in rent support,,the lib MP i d smith said he did,nt expect so many people to move,,he expected them to pay out of there food money,the shortfall in the rent reduction,and that is a fact.we have one of the worst nastiest evil corupt goverment for many years ,this bedroom & 22% council tax is now being investigated by the united nations,under the peoples human rights,sooner the better,!! JADEE1

7:52am Sat 21 Sep 13

Jonn says...

Rowdie wrote:
My parents both now dead....lived in a large 3 bed council house with myself and my sister. When my sister and I both left and got our own places my parents transferred from the large 3 bed house to a small council one bed terraced bungalow when they spent the rest of their lives.

A larger family was then able to move into our old homestead instead of being cramped in smaller accommodation.

Will someone tell me what is so wrong with that conception. It will need tinkering around the edges to accommodate everybody...there will always be exceptions where 'the cap doesn't always fit'...but surely the principle is the right way to go about it. And my family was always strong Labour through and through.
There is nothing wrong with the concept in your example.
I imagine the process was over a period of time and that your parents weren't suddenly hit with having to find extra money they did not have the day you and your sibling moved out. Your parents were lucky to find a 1 bedroom coucil bungalow, as proved emphatically, 1 bed properties are scarce.
There is also the social upheaval to consider. 440,000 of the 660,000 households affected by this policy are disabled. People build up a close by support network of family, trustworthy friends and outside help over time which you can't put a cost on or easily replace if forced to move out of that area. The whole thing is very complex, not just a matter of pay up or move.
There will also be an additional 67,000 pensioner households brought into the bedroom tax bracket in October when Universal Credit starts. More misery.
[quote][p][bold]Rowdie[/bold] wrote: My parents both now dead....lived in a large 3 bed council house with myself and my sister. When my sister and I both left and got our own places my parents transferred from the large 3 bed house to a small council one bed terraced bungalow when they spent the rest of their lives. A larger family was then able to move into our old homestead instead of being cramped in smaller accommodation. Will someone tell me what is so wrong with that conception. It will need tinkering around the edges to accommodate everybody...there will always be exceptions where 'the cap doesn't always fit'...but surely the principle is the right way to go about it. And my family was always strong Labour through and through.[/p][/quote]There is nothing wrong with the concept in your example. I imagine the process was over a period of time and that your parents weren't suddenly hit with having to find extra money they did not have the day you and your sibling moved out. Your parents were lucky to find a 1 bedroom coucil bungalow, as proved emphatically, 1 bed properties are scarce. There is also the social upheaval to consider. 440,000 of the 660,000 households affected by this policy are disabled. People build up a close by support network of family, trustworthy friends and outside help over time which you can't put a cost on or easily replace if forced to move out of that area. The whole thing is very complex, not just a matter of pay up or move. There will also be an additional 67,000 pensioner households brought into the bedroom tax bracket in October when Universal Credit starts. More misery. Jonn

9:10am Sat 21 Sep 13

justsayithowitis says...

Joe Wildman-Clark wrote:
justsayithowitis wrote:
I can't see what the problem is. If you rent privately and are on benefits spare rooms will not be allowed. Why should you be allowed spare rooms at taxpayers expense because you live in a council house
Private rentals are not effected, its only council owned houses.

There is somebody I know who is in a FOUR bed council house on his own! Not down this neck of the woods why should he be permitted to stay there when countless families are crying out for such a place.

I admit I live in a four bedroom house on my own the BIG difference is I paid for it I OWN 100% of it, never took out a mortgage as I had the cash through long hard work, why should somebody who has never lifted a finger for a days work have the same size house as somebody who has worked since the day they left school.

Its time people stopped expecting the state to look after them and they looed after themselves.

As for paying for it most big companies will just move their banking and investments arms offshore not rocket science.
Private rentals aren't included in this but if you are on benefits you have never been able to have a spare room
[quote][p][bold]Joe Wildman-Clark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justsayithowitis[/bold] wrote: I can't see what the problem is. If you rent privately and are on benefits spare rooms will not be allowed. Why should you be allowed spare rooms at taxpayers expense because you live in a council house[/p][/quote]Private rentals are not effected, its only council owned houses. There is somebody I know who is in a FOUR bed council house on his own! Not down this neck of the woods why should he be permitted to stay there when countless families are crying out for such a place. I admit I live in a four bedroom house on my own the BIG difference is I paid for it I OWN 100% of it, never took out a mortgage as I had the cash through long hard work, why should somebody who has never lifted a finger for a days work have the same size house as somebody who has worked since the day they left school. Its time people stopped expecting the state to look after them and they looed after themselves. As for paying for it most big companies will just move their banking and investments arms offshore not rocket science.[/p][/quote]Private rentals aren't included in this but if you are on benefits you have never been able to have a spare room justsayithowitis

4:57pm Sat 21 Sep 13

loonyleft says...

The bedroom tax is costing three times more than it was supposed to save, it needs scrapping-end of.
The bedroom tax is costing three times more than it was supposed to save, it needs scrapping-end of. loonyleft

9:20pm Sat 21 Sep 13

JADEE1 says...

£ 20 bilion of tax payers money now overspent by this nasty evil vindictive tory/lib goverment ,,thank god the UNITED NATIONS HAVE STEPPED IN OVER THIS ILLEGAL BEDROOM TAX & THE 22% COUNCIL TAX IS ALLSO ILLEGAL,THIS GOVERMENT IS FINISHED,,ED MILLIBAND TO LITTLE TO LATE HOW PATHETIC.!!
£ 20 bilion of tax payers money now overspent by this nasty evil vindictive tory/lib goverment ,,thank god the UNITED NATIONS HAVE STEPPED IN OVER THIS ILLEGAL BEDROOM TAX & THE 22% COUNCIL TAX IS ALLSO ILLEGAL,THIS GOVERMENT IS FINISHED,,ED MILLIBAND TO LITTLE TO LATE HOW PATHETIC.!! JADEE1
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